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#21 Siikozu

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Posted 03 December 2010 – 08:30 PM

ok so instead of freezing and adding hot water like the post, you suggest i re acidify, and evap? And how do you recommend i evap it?

Edited by Siikozu, 03 December 2010 – 08:57 PM.

    #22 bbd2

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    Posted 03 December 2010 – 11:25 PM

    evap by pointing a fan at the mix

      #23 Norman

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      Posted 04 December 2010 – 03:05 AM

      Siikozu said

      ok so instead of freezing and adding hot water like the post, you suggest i re acidify, and evap? And how do you recommend i evap it?

      You’ve totally lost me.
      You put your container of basified bark tea with naptha in a pan of hot water and it broke, right?
      So now you have a pan of really dilute basified bark tea and naptha?
      Freeze it? Add hot water? What?
      Remove the naptha and freeze that.
      Take the really dilute bark tea and acidify it to turn the alks into a salt so you can gently boil it back down to a smaller more concentrated amount, rebasify, and continue extracting with naptha.
      If you try to reduce it with heat without first converting the freebase alks to salt, you’ll boil off the freebase alks.
      If you try to reduce it at room temperature, we won’t be hearing from you until sometime in March.
      And though removing the broken glass first goes without saying, I’m saying it – remove the broken glass first.

        #24 Siikozu

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        Posted 04 December 2010 – 11:36 AM

        Okay used sep funnl to get as much of the naptha out as possible, and added half the bark tea to crockpot in addition to about 2 cups of vinegar, other half cooking in a pot over the stove. have about 2 gallons of this stuff to reduce so…..we’ll see how it goes.

        Edited by Siikozu, 04 December 2010 – 12:15 PM.

          #25 cheech

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          Posted 04 December 2010 – 12:37 PM

          klondike_bar said

          did you add enough lye? if the naptha doesnt become yellow after a few hours of mxing then the dmt likely hasnt become fully freebase yet. also, use more naptha for 400g of bark, at least 400ml in the first pull or 2

          the nap need not become yellow. the fact he has clean separation means the polar solution has proper ph. remember 100ml of nap will hold about a gram of spice when hot.

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            Posted 04 December 2010 – 12:40 PM

            Siikozu said

            Well, SWIM added extra vinegar to compensate for the excess water. Boiled for about total of 5-6 hours, let it sit overnight to settle the sludge. Decanted the solu and added about 75-100mg of lye, got a bit foamy, but that dissipated in a matter of seconds. Had to split the solu btw 2 gal jars because of the volume….Proceeded to add about 200ml of naptha to each jar, swirled them both for a few mins to mix. Was sorta bubbly brown looking. Been letting it sit now, pictures below…..
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            Does this look okay? Will it help any if it sits longer than 4 hours? Should SWIM add more naptha? Any other suggestions?
            As far as evap, and freeze precip, SWIM tried the fan before on the last attempt but it didn’t seem to work at all. And SWIM had an accident and spilled most of the solu. After the spill, attempted to freeze the small about of solu salvaged but got very little out of it. Think SWIM may have accidentally added extra water to the lye pre-mix last time, dunno if that was the prob, or maybe too much, or too little naptha?.
            As far as using heat to evap, instead of a fan, whats the safest way to do that?

            you look good there bro. a hot water bath will evap some of the nap, reducing volume. go head and put the nap in the freezer

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